Subgroup's Earliest Known Ancestors
A Rare Marker Event in This Group
This group shares a rare marker event at DYS464. 464 typically has 4 copies. They started out as G, but then mutated to C, so you can get GGGG, CGGG, CCGG, etc. At some point a deletion event can occur (usually in a pair), CC & CG have been recorded. So a regular 464 test of 15a,15b,16c,16d can be a 15c,16g or 15c,16c. In this group's case, the result is DYS464=17c,17g. The deletion may also affect adjacent markers as well especially DYF399S1, DYF371, DYF385, DYF399 and DYF408.
Here is an FTDNA R1b-U106* DYS464X cg Cluster DNA project for this group.
Here is a Yahoo! group for this group's rare DYS464cg cluster.
The group is researching a possible Norman DNA connection and using documentary research to try and locate when and where the common ancestors between some of the different but matching surnames lived.
"Recent" History among Genetic Matches Notes
Along with Bowe and Hale, 13 of 16 additional surnames that match them at the 25 and 37 marker levels show their highest concentration in Lanarkshire, Scotland in the 19th century censuses. It is a bit early to draw firm conclusions, but this could point to a common geographic origin in Lanarkshire, Scotland, "shortly" before surnames came into use there.
All the surnames that match at the 37 and 67 marker levels (Bow/e, Hale, Humphries, Porter and Ross) also share concentrations--though not as exclusively as with the Lanarkshire associations--in Lancashire, England in the 1891 UK census, suggesting the possibility that this line went from Lanarkshire, Scotland, to England, possibly Lancashire.
Haplogroup Notes
This group shares the R-U106 marker within the R1b subclade R1b1b2a1a*. R-U106 has many further subclades now, leaving some stragglers (us) with no subclade defined. Still just R-U106x. Here is a list of the current "left overs".
A possibility is that the R-U106x_Modal represents someone from the Anglii tribe. If so you would expect to see Germans, Dutch, Finish, Danes and Swedes. Then Scotch/(N Irish) & English as they came over.
Here is a lineage tree for the R-U106x (U106+,U198-,L1-,L48-,L257-). 1300 yrs (30 yr generation) = 1100 yrs (25 yrs) so 700 - 900 AD where I(147853) split off from the group. The 2 Swedes in the group split off around 2200 - 1800 or abt 0 AD.
We are L48- which appears to be proto-Germanic.
Mike Maddi reported preliminary L48+ and L48- data recently. The continental results are few in number, so low in confidence factor, but they do seem to create slight implications that there might be more of the older form L48- 390=24 in northeast England (NEE) than elsewhere. My thought is that because L48 effectively divides U106 in half, and because it appears to be very close to the same age, I would sort of expect L48+ and L48- results to “roughly” equalize, except in pockets. However, if L48- is more prominent in NEE, or even if it is not, here is my answer:
From Budapest, and along the Danube as you proceed west, there are various rivers that flow down from Bohemia into the Danube. Then, there are various significant rivers that flow north to the Baltic, notably, the Vistula and the Oder, both of which originate north of Budapest. From the Vistula, there are various rivers running east-west into NEE, and of course, there is the Baltic coast, and Scandinavia beyond.
While undoubtedly, some U106 penetration into this area came from the Rhine eastward along east-west running rivers in Germany, and along the Baltic coast, I would say, particularly if evidence holds of a higher concentration of older L48- in the NEE, that this argues for a U106 origin along the Danube, somewhere closer to the Budapest end than to the Rhine. Also, the high concentration of U106 in Austria suggests that U106 formed considerably east of the Rhine.
At the Rhine, obviously, the U106 moved down to where they would flourish most, in the Netherlands. As mentioned, they could take various east-west rivers across Germany, proceed to Denmark and into Scandinavia, and along the Baltic.